Ron Paul vs. the neocon cowards
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Maxim's fan04 Oct 2007 14:43
Max, I'm sorry, but there have been times when I've used your name just to see how others react. It's incredible what a response you get. I'd love to become as famous as you one day.
to Maxim's fan (aka Maxim)04 Oct 2007 16:43
Maxim isn't famous. He's infamous.
Maxim.04 Oct 2007 07:59
Ahto Männik04 Oct 2007 04:47
Don't take these comments personally, Maxim. This festering hatred goes back at least a generation, and to think that these young people are the pride of our community! I shudder to think how much longer and with how much energy our community can continue to exist if people are made as unwelcome as you have been.
to Ahto Maxim04 Oct 2007 14:01
Maxim -- you make yourself look silly when you post under a different name.
Have a second look at what you have written. Then ask yourself if it's logical.
One of the reasons for the strong reactions to your postings is their irrationality. You are like a loud drunk at a party who thinks that his jokes are funny. In other words, you are a social embarrassment.
Maxim.04 Oct 2007 14:40
Unfortunately I don't have a clue about what you are talking about. I have written a string of comments here; which one specifically are you referring to? It seems as though you'll never get off your high horse and start to offer some constructive objective views yourself. It all goes to show that you know nothing about the Homeland, and need Maxim to tell you a thing or two. I'm happy to do that, because you've failed the rest of the Estonian community by your rude behaviour, but I'm willing to give you just one last chance.
Raul04 Oct 2007 15:03
Perhaps.
But you then are the type that show up to the party uninvited and unwanted; spews on about him/herself and your "theories" with a total lack of repsect for any other human in the room; bullies others with alternate ideas; you then start to wonder why no one's calling; you then feel sorry for yourself and start questioning your own intellect and eventually you wind up here to satisfy your simmering rage.

Worse, is that you make it sound as if you're some sort of authority on everything "Estonian" when all the while, you simply don't have a clue! And to cover this up, you beat up on someone who plays by the rules and gives their well qualified personal opinions.

I'm happy to read and debate all opinions, but this anti intellectual bullying is pathetic.
"... one last chance."04 Oct 2007 17:25
...for what Maxim?
Have to say that you're kinda cute when you're angry.
Maxim.04 Oct 2007 01:18
Why can't you appreciate that I appreciate your presence here. If we weren't all here trying to make the world a better place, then I doubt anyone else would take our place. That's a fact indeed to be remembered!! We are all in this for the same reason-to do the best we can under the circumstances. Let's all give it our best shot-that's my attitude.
Kuule sina, Maxim03 Oct 2007 15:47
Tarkus on nagu jõgi, mida sügavam, seda vähem häält ta teeb.
to Toomas Merilo03 Oct 2007 08:57
You are acquainted with Maxim and he has acknowledged that fact. As the gentleman that you are, you are unwilling to reveal his actual identity.
I wonder if you would do your old friend, Maxim, a favour by confirming what he states above -- that he is not EK? If so, both Maxim and the actual EK would be more at ease.
Sherlock03 Oct 2007 02:49
Maxim , you have done a good job of keeping people like myself away. The smell realy gets to be too much. The best of luck to you. It is people like you that keep me from returning to live in Estonia.
telegraph/uk30 Sep 2007 16:37
Anonymous30 Sep 2007 16:04
So, the stupid and mentally troubled Maxim sanctions and approves a comment by Merilo. There's a curiosity for you. (I'll bet that Merilo is embarrassed by it.) It's also a surprise since Dr. Herndon and Maxim construct their arguments in a similar style. I was certain that they were blood-brothers.
Nice to see30 Sep 2007 15:26
Must have missed Eesti Elu's job posting for censor.There seem to be a variety of candidates; unfortunately none who espouse free speech.
Since when did criticism of the world's political leadership become offside, because it wasn't "Estonian" ?
With that rationale, in 1939 Estonian newspapers should not have published any articles that would have taken Nazi leadership to task when Czechoslovakia was invaded.
Toomas Merilo30 Sep 2007 19:11
“Nice to see” asked the [i]rhetorical[i] question, “Since when did criticism of the world's political leadership become offside, because it wasn't Estonian?“ (S)he of course knows this isn’t offside, hasn’t been, and never will be. (S)he also erroneously implies I’m against free speech.

So what started this? Well, ostensibly it was my comment: [i]This article has no place in Eesti Elu.[i] And it doesn’t, for the same reason that articles like [i]An Approximation Algorithm for Scheduling Malleable Tasks under General Precedence Constraints[i] has no place in Eesti Elu. It is simply inappropriate for the readership.

If one has read the article, it would become clear that it is a shill for Congressman Ron Paul. Actually, for his candidacy for the Republican Party’s nomination for President. Nota Bene: the first clue is in the article’s title, [i]Ron Paul vs. the neocon cowards.[i] Read it. Read it carefully.

As for Maxim agreeing with me? Well, not a chance. Maxim was just making a botched attempt at sarcasm. And the controversial but interesting Peeter Bush is given a back-handed insult (compliment?) in the process.
Maxim.30 Sep 2007 23:19
No Toomas-I am not giving Peter a backhander in any way at all, and I think Peter is broad-minded enough and always displays courtesy and civic-mindedness for him not to see my support of you as being offensive. The fact that you use this support in such a negative way shows that you do really have an inclination to be fairly narrow-minded yourself, and that you are not willing to consider that in intellectual freedom comes convergience of ideas and opinions which bring people together. This is what has happened, but you have failed to see it's occurrence. Which means you should look at what you really believe in, and why you want to restrict you association to a select group of people and not the broader public. I was very genuine in my support of you this time, yet you see this as having its roots in sarcasm. What a twisted world we live in.
Toomas Merilo01 Oct 2007 07:47
In light of what you've said above, I will do what I don't recall ever having seen you do: [i]I will apologize.[i]

I am sorry, [i]Maxim[i], for having erroneously labelled your agreement with my previous points as an attempt at sarcasm. Sorry.
to tm and m01 Oct 2007 10:03
Maxim.01 Oct 2007 12:56
Not a problem. In fact your response gives us all food for thought....
Well ... Maxim?02 Oct 2007 09:40
This is the second time that Toomas Merilo makes a public apology -- a noble gesture.
Many of us believe that you, Maxim, owe us many apologies. Can we expect you to follow Toomas' example?
Maxim.02 Oct 2007 11:10
Certainly I have said things which have upset people in the past, and I do apologize for that. However, it does seem that many of my critics have continued to push for further apologies for things which I have never even said. I can see these people from a mile off, and I don't think any amount of apologizing is suffice for them. Let it be said that if my comments carry a certain amount of bite, then that is something I cannot apologize for, as Estonia's problems are deemed too serious for them not to be coined in language which best describes there actual context. Finally, if there is anything else that needs an apology from me, I would be more than happy to hear from people and only too glad to apologize, if the request is honest and sincere. Time has shown that Toomas is one of the very few who has earned my gratitude, and I can't see that many others have the same inclination to intellectual honesty that is transparent in T M's postings. The critic to whom I am currently responding is a case in point.
Make up you mind, Maxim02 Oct 2007 11:56
Maxim, you say that, "Certainly I have said things which have upset people in the past, and I do apologize for that." Well done, Maxim; but then you say that, "if my comments carry a certain amount of bite, then that is something I cannot apologize for..."
Maxim's "gratitude" for Merilo02 Oct 2007 12:17
In response to your assertion that Russia always gets its way in Europe, Toomas Merilo pointed out to you that Russia was unable to block Nato's expansion there -- a major policy failure for Russia. In your response to him, you said that he is full of "verbal diarrhea".
Can't you see that Merilo deserves an apology for that?
üks vaatevinkel02 Oct 2007 13:29
to Maxim02 Oct 2007 13:57
Maxim, just a little while ago you were just as mad as a wet hen and threatening to sue Merilo for not showing you due respect. What has happened since?
to Maxim02 Oct 2007 14:34
"if there is anything else that needs an apology from me, I would be more than happy to hear from people and only too glad to apologize, if the request is honest and sincere"

Thanks for that Maxim. Since you asked, I'll say that you should apologize to Lutherans. You have implied that we are inferior and should convert to the Orthodox faith. That is unjustified and hurtful.

I'm waiting for your promised apology.
Maxim.02 Oct 2007 14:37
It's not really a contradiction-it's a confirmation of a different style of writing. Sometimes one can't take too softly-softly an approach, and expect to get the message across.
Maxim.02 Oct 2007 14:39
I think Toomas has seen my effort in a change of heart, but I thank you for taking so much interest in how Toomas feels. I'm sure you understand that people who write here are actually full-grown adults who can stand up for themselves when needed.
Maxim.02 Oct 2007 14:42
That is a very reasonable and justifiable request. Please accept my apologies for offending you with such comments, and I will endeavour to avoid similar mistakes in the future.
a different style of writing?02 Oct 2007 15:01
Maxim. Your style of writing simply doesn't work. It's ungrammatical and incoherent -- a barrier to communication.
Toomas02 Oct 2007 17:45
Yes I agree. A real intellectual can speak English, Estonian or something. Poor Maxim is imprisoned in incoherency. But he doesn't know it. He is like a blind man who doesn't know that he is living among people with vision.
Maxim.03 Oct 2007 00:35
Toomas, what is the implication behind your comment? I think that many of your past criticism's have revealed your own personal views, which I am more than glad to read and learn to appreciate, but I think that rubbishing others is probably not the best tactic with which to bridge differences. There are a good number of people here who know absolutely sweet Fanny Adams about Estonian politics, and it is up to you and me to set the record straight. We should avoid being provocative at all costs-it only serves to inflame the nasty character assassinations that are so prevalent within our community.
Maxim.03 Oct 2007 00:45
Thank you for pointing this out to me. Apart from the grammatical side of things, have you actually any knowledge of what is happening in Estonia, and if so, why is it that you are keeping your cards so close to your own chest? There are too few people who are making worthwhile contributions here, and others who just have huge problems with seeing red in syntax. Instead of being kind enough to correct my errors, they show no inclination whatsoever of knowing what's actually going on in the homeland. If they did, they would surely be writing comments about it. It seems to me that many Canadian Estonians have become so anglicized to the point of no return!
Anonymous03 Oct 2007 02:24
For years, you've been barking at us incoherently. Now, we find out that you're actually educating us about Estonian politics. Thanks a lot.
Maxim.03 Oct 2007 06:28
My critics are usually the ones that prefer to up the heat when it serves their purpose. Most readers can see through this little scam, and the result is that wasted effort and precious cyberspace get used to no-one's benefit. If you have something constructive to add, we would all be pleased to hear it, especially myself. Thank you very much.
to Maxim03 Oct 2007 07:25
I was surprised to read that you haunt this page to educate us about Estonian politics. Quite frankly, I don't believe it because your comments invariably have a barb attached to them, calculated to annoy us. Occasionally, you have insulted us viciously. You have probably forgotten how you have accused us of being Nazi sympathizers, if not outright Nazis. You now deny saying that Estonian women “welcomed” (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) German occupation forces. You expressed pity when the restored Jaani kirik in Tallinn looked like a Lutheran church. You regularly remind us that we can't speak Estonian very well. It's true; but galling coming from some who can't speak anything at a level to be expected from a high school graduate -- particularly – Estonian, in spite of spending the past twenty years in Estonia. How can you explain that? Do you have a low IQ, dyslexia, or mental illness? So you think that you have something to teach us. You, the guy that once said that he was leaving Estonia because there are too many Russians there. And where were you planning to go? To Kaliningrad, a province of Russia! You also once promised to establish your own web site so that you could address your “fans” and “supporters” without jeers from the sidelines; but, you haven't done that because you have neither fans nor anything to tell them. All that you've got is us – an unwilling audience to taunt and goad.
You are an egotist of pathological proportions. Combined with your stupidity, you're a freak (or, as you spell it, “friek”).
Maxim.03 Oct 2007 08:41
You have pointed out a very major problem. But the problem does not lie with me-it is with you! You see, I am not here to goad anyone, and it doesn't matter how many times people say that, there is not a sceric of evidence that supports your theory. The other problem has to do with the fact that I wrote earlier on about everyone shooting the messenger, and trying to convey the impression that the Estonian community would be a lot more at peace without me. I hardly believe that, and neither should you. Finally, all of my critics for some reason or other have a preconception that the person writing under the guise of Maxim is EK. EK has not made an appearance here or elsewhere for that matter, and it would be best to let any fond memory of him lie peacefully to rest. Try to dispence with the thought that you are writing to EK-you are not writing to him, and you should be glad for that.
Parsely03 Oct 2007 10:59
Sometimes you have to read the classics really closely, to appreciate their true genius:

> My critics - Yes, Toomas Merilo, et al., they all belong to Maxim, united in a singular nefarious purpose (see below).

> are usually the ones - But not always? Who are the others? His fans? Disinterested bystanders? Political authorities? Maxim himself?

> that prefer to up the heat - As opposed to what? Please note that the active verb here is "prefer." Remember, we sometimes have persons other than Maxim's critics doing the preferring with respect to increased heat..

> when it serves their purpose. - and not when it serves Maxim's purpose? How very nefarious of them! Imagine that! Preferring to do something when it suits their purpose! The nerve of some people!

> Most readers can see through - but don't? or can't be bothered? And what about the minority who can't?

> this little scam, - ah, so that's what "preferring to up the heat" is! A little scam! A petty fraud! It is one of the great pleasures of reading Maxim's commentary that you never know what he is writing about until you sort out all the syntactical discontinuities.

> and the result is that - We have to remember that the result that is the subject of this sentence (wait for it) will be that of the readers being able to see through, but not necessarily actually seeing through, the "little scam" of preferring to up the heat. You see how elegantly and economically Maxim conveys such a complicated thought arrangement!

> wasted effort and precious cyberspace - this introduces a breathtaking range of conceptual quantities.

> get used to no-one's benefit. - all that "wasted effort" ... "used to no-one's benefit". Such a resultant shame! An outrage to all right-thinking, decent, intelligent, not to mention eloquent Eesti Elu commentators everywhere! To think of the benefits someone might have derived from all those wasted efforts! And all that "precious cyberspace" ! Home of YouTube and Facebook and Pornoworld.com. Mütsid maha ja nutma! But at least we can take comfort in those "wasted efforts and precious cyberspace" being used, even if it is to no-ones benefit. Much better than not being used at all. Even Maxim must derive some comfort from this.

> If you have something constructive to add, - Who is he addressing in the first person here? What thing is he referring to? Constructive preferences? Constructive heat? Constructive frauds? Constructive results? Constructive benefits?

> we would all be pleased to hear it, - Who is we? And what pleasure is being referred to here?

> especially myself. - Awwww, that's poignant. See how neatly Maxim returns to the first person at the very end. That is the mark of a true rhetorical talent, so adroitly going from first person singular to infinitive to collective and back to first person -- toying with us in suspense until he sets the hook at the very end.

> Thank you very much. - No, Thank You, Maxim. Thank You. Where would we be without you?
Maxim.03 Oct 2007 14:12
Many of my critics have decided to uphold what little natural talent I have and make that a more prominent issue than Ron Paul. Sometimes you have to wonder what it is that drives my critics to insanity, all in the name of being able to get the boot into Maxim once again! However, I you think I am worthy of such attention, then please accept my gratitude for that. I didn't think I had left such an indelible mark on this readership. I have seen that many people are grateful for my input, and I thank them for their response, and I look forward to being able to provide many more insights into Estonian politics as the opportunity arises. Please rest assured that I will continue to be faithful where it counts, and that means keeping you informed of events in the Motherland. I wish to close this section of comments and would be grateful if the last person out pulled the chain...
Anonymous03 Oct 2007 15:27
"I have seen that many people are grateful for my input"
What nonsense! The only praise that you have ever received here is that which you have composed yourself in your illiterate style that no one else could possibly duplicate.
"I look forward to being able to provide many more insights into Estonian politics as the opportunity arises."
Insults aren't insights, Maxim.
Dear Maxim03 Oct 2007 15:40
Please give us an example of what you think is one of your insights into Estonian politics.

In the archives, you have built up a veritable dunghill of commentary. I'm wondering if, by chance, there might be a sensible comment in there.
Toomas Merilo29 Sep 2007 22:39
This article has no place in Eesti Elu:

it does not concern Estonian Canadians (who by the way, cannot by and large, vote for the next US President).

Neither does it present any philosophical or ethical insights into anything. It is as irrational as anything I’ve seen.

If anyone believes there is something to debate here, then please [i]tell us what that might be[i]. And let the debate begin. But in all honesty, I’m not waiting with bated breath.
Maxim.30 Sep 2007 12:42
I completely endorse Toomas' point of view. There is nothing in this article which should raise an iota of interest for Canadian Estonians, and it's publication is simply a waste of good space. It has been a good number of weeks since our old and good friend Ottawan Peeter Busch has had a chance to display his journalistic acumen, and it would be far more interesting to read a piece by him than some loser called Herndon.
I agree with Maxim29 Sep 2007 19:41
Estonia would be a better place if those uncultured Lutherans could be forcibly converted to the Orthodox faith.
Don't be unreasonable and attack me personally. You are obliged to dissect my alternative idea!
When we finish with that one, then we can move on to some of Maxim's other profound alternative thoughts. The one that I like is that Estonian women of Maxim's mother's generation were sluts. (Maxim's mother's name is Koidula.) Maxim didn't phrase it in those precise words, but the meaning was precisely that. Let's not attack Maxim personally. It's his wit and wisdom that we must examine here. There's more when we're done with that. This is a well that will not run dry.
anonymous29 Sep 2007 16:57
It's healthy to have a place to express one's voice without fear of being punished or isolated - this especially relates to Estonian communities. Even alternate thinkers have a right to a voice.
Why?29 Sep 2007 13:09
Why did EE print Dr. James N. Herndon's teenage, emotional outburst? .... It's simply not in keeping with the fine journalism that we see elsewhere in this paper, nor is it connected to Estonian affairs. Intellectually, it's down there with Maxim's theatre of the grotesque.
not maxim29 Sep 2007 13:49
most ee commentators offer nothing to stimulate a debate, only complaints of anyone who differs from their very narrow line of thinking ... a rather pathetic situation
if this article by james hendron is off the rails, please explain why, and enlighten others !
rather than aw s**t, its not my line of thinking so we can't have it
at least maxim expresses his ideas(not always my perspective), but he always gets attacked personnaly, as opposed to having his positions disected
Maxim.29 Sep 2007 14:17
You're absolutely right, my friend, and let me add that you're hardly the only one who thinks like you do. I believe most people appreciate originality and variety of thought, although you wouldn't guess it from some of these comments. It's like they'd hope every opinion would be just the one that gets published like..umm..well..Toomas Merilo or his clone, or Anonymous. But keep it within that parameter thank you very much. Now I don't have anything against these people expressing their opinion as you obviously don't either, but I can't for the like of me figure out why there isn't a broader range of opinion expressed at this site. Has every other alternative thinker been shot down in flames years ago like the Bolshies did in Russia when they came to power. Or is this just a site for Mc Carthyist frieks? I have never everunderstood why alternate opinion is something to be automatically scorned here, and why the alternative to Maxim is always to shoot the messenger and then pretend that the rest of the community thinks one track like they do. Can this possibly be the answer, or is it just plain hopeless to hope against hope that maybe there is someone else in the Canadian-Estonian community who doesn't think like the above mentioned VIP's, yet is not afraid of running it past this audience. Somehow I think that the community spirit is one of think like us or else you'll never be welcome here again. Who else has had this feeling and lives in Toronto? You can still write while there is the chance of anonymity being secure-but that may change if the local bolshies get their way.
a rant is ok if it is accurate28 Sep 2007 19:38
if one looks at the world, this same line of thinking is being taken forward again by the us in their approach to iran ...
to paraphrase an astute observation of maxim's; as america behaves in its 'sphere of influence', russia will feel entitled to behave in a similar manner in its perceived sphere of inluence ... and then denunciation or criticism is not valid, if the us has not been denounced for its actions; witness russian behaviour and the lack of world reaction in chechenya
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