Estonian-Canadian arrested for participating in the activities of a terrorist group
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Aasa Reidak08 Dec 2023 20:00
This is terribly embarrassing for the rest of us law abiding citizens. I certainly don't think our forebearers will rest easily with this, not matter what they went through.
Skeptic #109 Dec 2023 00:00
What is the source of this article? Who wrote it? Why are there no links or references where we can verify this? What does it mean "near"? On the property? 100 yards away? A mile? 10 miles? Are you sure this is not Russian disinformation? This is very poor journalism.
Inquirer09 Dec 2023 14:29
For sources, see the RCMP et al. For scholarship, “Challenging Hate: Sustained Futures” and “Can it happen here? Rethinking the far right and Canadian exceptionalism” CSA May 2023, Martin Lukk, U of T, co-chair. For personal life, Keskus et al.

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada...
https://globalnews.ca/news/101...
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/1...
https://www.vice.com/en/articl...
https://www.vice.com/en/articl...
https://toronto.citynews.ca/20...
https://www.durhamradionews.co...
https://www.theglobeandmail.co...
https://www.antihate.ca/former...

https://www.csa-scs.ca/call-fo... “Challenging Hate: Sustained Futures”.

https://www.estonianfoundation... “Viru Vanemad”.

https://eestielu.ca/toronto-ee...

https://www.eesti.ca/estonian-... Estonian Scouts and Guides.

https://www.eesti.ca/kalevi-li...

https://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/d... p.12 “Sünnipäeva pidu, mis muutus pulmapeoks“.
To Inquirer09 Dec 2023 14:54
Embarrassing and unacceptable that the Inquirer is linking articles that merely mention his family members and have nothing to do with the suspect or his dealings.

These are respected members of the community.

Why not name and shame his Estonian school teachers and scout leaders while you are at it. Great independent sleuthing - a fantastic contribution to the community fabric.
Õ09 Dec 2023 15:12
Wow, this link makes especially interesting reading.

https://www.vice.com/en/articl...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Õ (13:55)
Dr Freud10 Dec 2023 12:09
Inquirer reminds me of the scum who attempted to derail a certain construction project that was largely approved by toronto estos.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Timut (12:07)
Toronto Eestlane09 Dec 2023 12:01
Shout out to all the LGBTQ+, Jewish, mixed race people who are well-respected members of our community, out there doing good in our community and the wider world. There’s no space for people like this loser who twist our heritage into something disgusting and hateful like this.
Õ09 Dec 2023 13:55
That's too bad. I knew his dad and grandfather well, both respected members of the community. I hope üks tõrvatilk ei riku meepotti.
An apple doesn't always ....09 Dec 2023 21:23
.... fall far from its tree!
I knew this freak's father: a decent man by every measure! What distorted his son wasn't his doing!
Yankee10 Dec 2023 09:30
Scariest part of all is that a year from now, this ideology could be on its way to the White House.
To Yankee10 Dec 2023 11:19
Equally scary are the Estonians on both sides of the brodrer who willingly accpt this, even promotoe this.
Timut10 Dec 2023 12:07
No more
Lembit Tork16 Dec 2023 00:26
Väga kurb ja sünge lugu. Ka mina kunagi tundsin perekonda hästi. Vahvad inimesed. Mis puudutab poega tahaks nutta. Aga mida me täpselt kogu loost teame? Ja tegelikult, kui vaadata sügavamale, kas võiksin öelda, et "there but by the grace of God and circumstance go I"? Keda huvitab, siit leiate minu Quora mõtisklusi sellel teemal, meie laiemast kaasaja ühiskonna traagikast. Ilusat teile Kanadas! Hoidke end. https://www.quora.com/What-do-...
lugeja18 Dec 2023 13:23
I read what you wrote in quora and I can't agree, especially this quote, weems like pure nonsense.

", because of which various demographics, like these young men, feel they’ve been societally, civilisationally, epically unfairly done by, misunderstood and targetted. Forcing them to go “underground” and to fight back."

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. You're making it sound like this fella is "forced" to spread neo-Nazi propaganda and prepare for a forthcoming race war. Um, no.
hummmm18 Dec 2023 16:52
Think you might have something here ...
"Perish the thought the real reason is the desperate need to silence its critics holding up the mirror, deathly afraid of looking there for deep systemic causes?
'kaasaja ühiskonna traagikast'20 Dec 2023 14:09
Read Camus on the pretense of being happy vs how do you actually feel? and what are you going through? (The Outsider).

https://www.theguardian.com/bo...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Inquirer (14:29)
Lembit Tork22 Dec 2023 12:16
Re lugeja and "nonsense". Easy to condemn, harder to understand? I'm trying to understand these young men, not excuse them (and not anonymously btw). What's going on?

Seemingly not seeing the forest for the trees, Canada continues to surprise. Publisher Conrad Black: "(Canadians)...a people who are obsessively preoccupied with pre-emptively and aggressively making every conceivable concession to previously unheard of sensibilities, supposedly in the interests of being inoffensive".
And here's a fresh tidbit of contemporary Canadiana presumably not in the main news cycle.My question concerns the momma bears in attendance. Is their behaviour encouraged, coerced or self-coerced?

An alternative news reporter on YouTube tries to interview a few of the moms at the viewing gallery of an Orangeville swimming pool where a 50 year old man who identifies as a 14 yr old girl gets to shower with their daughters. Each of these moms and two personnel (asking him and the cameraman to leave or they’ll call the cops) refuse to comment or give their names, saying he’s not allowed to film there. None will voice a personal opinion about the situaion. Their girls. Their feelings. The self-identifier. Why? Stuck in their dread of backlash, their fear of consequences, they've "gone underground" with their personal opinions. Right? Connect the dots... What's going on in Canada?
Lembit Tork23 Dec 2023 02:45
Hei "kaasaja ühiskonna traagikast"/ Inquirer. Good Guardian article linked there. But could you elaborate on how the dubious "positivity" message relates to this story? Is it in the "nothing to see here, we've got this covered" smiley two-sided realm of easy condemnation - easy virtue? Which hinders deeper societal self-analysis, and allows for rote demonisation of the "obviously guilty"? Just slap 'em with the weaponised labels du jour and that's the conveniently comforting end of story? Not that there is no guilt amongst the accused parties, but a lack of curiosity about wider cultural underpinnings is a little too easy, a caricature? Umbes selliselt. Cheers.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Lembit Tork (12:16)
Eesti mees Rootsis18 Dec 2023 00:36
Soe õhk...

Mida rohkem loed, seda...


" The Atomwaffen Division (Atomwaffen meaning "nuclear weapons" in German), also known as the National Socialist Resistance Front,[1] is an international far-right extremist and neo-Nazi terrorist network.[9] Formed in 2013 and based in the Southern United States, it has since expanded across the United States and it has also expanded into the United Kingdom, Argentina, Canada, Germany, the Baltic states, and other European countries. The group is described as a part of the alt-right by some journalists, but it rejects the label[4..."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
Shocked and saddened26 Dec 2023 19:11
Shocked and sad that no Toronto Estonian leader saw this coming. Where was Markus Kolga, isn't this his field of expertise??
sad, so sad30 Dec 2023 17:53
No big surprise here. Having worked at a large community estonian business I experienced massive amounts of racism, especially from employees born in Estonia in the later years 1965 plus.
to: sad, so sad30 Dec 2023 21:22
so where was it that you got your experience?
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