9 Madison takes a step forward
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Curiouser & curiouser21 Jan 2019 22:29
Well isn't this a fine how-do-you-do.
Looks like we're heading headlong through the looking glass.
rkomendant@studiok.ca22 Jan 2019 03:33
due diligence my a$$!
Jaak Järve22 Jan 2019 06:19
Okay boys and girls, its time to introduce a new word to your vocabulary.
hoodwink
verb
hood·wink | ˈhu̇d-ˌwiŋk
hoodwinked; hoodwinking; hoodwinks
Definition of hoodwink
transitive verb
1: to deceive by false appearance : DUPE people who allow themselves to be hoodwinked by such promises
rkomendant@studiok.ca22 Jan 2019 09:20
2014??? Jaak- spell a-r-s-o-n now. I would put security on Broadview immediatement. No developer wants to sachenmacher with a vana kobudik: the 1911 Richardson Romanesque schoolhouse. All the geschäft that has gone down- tut tut, so busted.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: rkomendant@studiok.ca (03:33)
"boys and girls"?23 Jan 2019 14:15
Jaak Järve! You aren't flattering yourself an imperious attitude toward the rest of us.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: to - Duped Shareholder (14:10)
Fox Mulder22 Jan 2019 07:34
2nd new word of the day for the "naysayers" - conspiracy

For those with a skaut or gaid background, one person's conspiracy theory is a skaut/gaid "be prepared" motto.

They're out there!!!

For some "Faux news"
9 madison official step song22 Jan 2019 07:45
2 sammu sissepoole,
2 sammu valjaapoole
plaks ja parem kasi
plaks ja vasak kasi
plaks ja parem kasi
va-he-tus.
More conspiracy mongering!22 Jan 2019 09:29
"Some [i.e. Meiusi & co.] may have wondered if [i.e. are suggesting that] the interests of ECU and EFC, as EHL shareholders with certain [i.e. illegitimate] influence, could have had their attention divided [i.e. are in conflict] with the redevelopment efforts on Broadview [i.e. a dead letter] and the interests of the remaining [i.e. minority faction of] EHL shareholders."
Hey Meiusi!22 Jan 2019 18:32
Why not try honest journalism?
Your editorializing would also be tolerable, if you curbed your innuendo and half-truths.
"innuendo and half-truths"22 Jan 2019 22:18
So what are they?
Meiusi's innuendo...23 Jan 2019 08:15
...and list of half-truths is very long!
Several times, mention of them has appeared here but, such references are quickly erased.
Let's see how long this one lasts.
Meiusi has some editorial control at EWR.
What's the point?23 Jan 2019 08:19
A comment making reference to one of Meiusi's many half-truths or shameful innuendo has, to date, been quickly erased.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Meiusi's innuendo... (08:15)
Lugeja22 Jan 2019 21:37
Either that, or trying to close the barn door after the horses have fled.
Fox Mulder23 Jan 2019 10:43
to

I was under the impression that you reside up in TonDerBay?

Not that this precludes you from sharing an opinion, but if you do live "up der" how frequently do you drive to Eesti Maja?

as for faux news, just because the man that tried to sell secure info vaults in Newfoundland, sees a conspiracy when professionals in financial planning and legal matters tried to prepare for a temporary fix (ie where the ETCU could serve clients while EM was to be rebuilt with the developers) has turned into a blessing in disguise.... for me and the others who are FOR the Estonian Centre.

Everyone is free to have an opinion, but to have a conspiracy behind every act (make the man that tried to take on Verizon) so called news items as unbelievable as BuzzFeed.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Fox Mulder (07:34)
Duped shareholder23 Jan 2019 11:12
Bankers have one job only. To make more money. If anyone thinks they are in the business of good community works, they are kidding themselves!
Duped shareholder23 Jan 2019 11:15
Bankers have one job only. To make more money. If anyone thinks they are in the business of good community works, they are kidding themselves!
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Duped shareholder (11:12)
to - Duped Shareholder23 Jan 2019 14:10
The Credit Union belongs to its depositors. If it makes money for us, that's to our benefit.
I'd be upset if our deposits were mismanaged and it lost money.
rkomendant@studiok.ca23 Jan 2019 11:27
I feel your pain, all of you climate deniers so this must all be a test (of who we are/what we have become/who we want to be) On the one hand we have a cowboy journalist who went to city hall and opened some files and on the other hand we have the crew of a Kafka novel. Incredulous, if for four years now, we have been strung along with pre-tend meetings, pre-tend votes, fake graphs and spreadsheets, all for naught because it was already in the bag? There are not enough shovels to bury this ethical and moral dilemma, oh waitaminit, we're going to hit a subway line (add sliding trombone). Speaking of Thunder Bay, the Finns needed a Mannerheim to steer them out of their mess- are you the chosen one? didn't think so. The truth IS out there Mulder! (add scarey music)
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: rkomendant@studiok.ca (03:33), rkomendant@studiok.ca (09:20)
Jaak Järve24 Jan 2019 20:41
Today I will share wikipedia meanings for two terminologies:
1) Due Diligence and
2) Pyrrhic Victory

Due Diligence: Due diligence is the investigation or exercise of care that a reasonable business or person is expected to take before entering into an agreement or contract with another party, or an act with a certain standard of care. It can be a legal obligation, but the term will more commonly apply to voluntary investigations.
Pyrrhic Victory: A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has also taken a heavy toll that negates any true sense of achievement.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Jaak Järve (06:19)
Fox Mulder24 Jan 2019 20:56
from the same source we have

Fake news - is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate disinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media. The false information is often caused by reporters paying sources for stories, an unethical practice called checkbook journalism. The news is then often reverberated as misinformation in social media, but occasionally finds its way to the mainstream media as well.

Fake news is written and published usually with the intent to mislead in order to damage an agency, entity, or person, and/or gain financially or politically, often using sensationalist, dishonest, or outright fabricated headlines to increase readership.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Fox Mulder (07:34), Fox Mulder (10:43)
What's your point, Jaak?25 Jan 2019 07:59
Are you implying something about the Madison Ave. project? If so, what? And be specific!
Don't follow Meiusi's style: creating a huge cloud of mephitic innuendo on a few verifiable facts.
Jaak Järve25 Jan 2019 08:40
Eesti Maja on isemajandav ettevõte ning meil tuleb valvel olla ja selle eest hoolitseda, et meie oma kodu sissetulekud oleksid kindlustatud ja maja eksistents pikemaks ajaks garanteeritud.
Eriti oluline on hoolitseda selle eest, et Toronto Eesti Maja ei jääks ellu siirduvatele noortele ainult lasteaia asukohaks ja koolimajaks, kus nad eesti keelt õppisid ja eesti ühiskonnaga laiemas ulatuses kokku puutusid, vaid et see kujuneks neile ka pärast kooliaastaid tõsiseks rahvuslikuks koduks nagu ta seda on olnud vanematele generatsioonidele.
Selleks on vaja tõenäoliselt uusi ideid ja ümberehituse plaane, mis on praeguse juhatuse meeles mõlkumas. Kuid selleks on vaja ka noorte oma algatusi, huvi asja vastu ja aktiivset panust, kuna tulevikus ei kasuta seda maja enam need, kes selle ostsid ja eesti ühiskonna vajadustele vastavalt täiendasid ja ümber ehitasid, vaid nende järeletulejad, kellede vajadused ja eluavaldused on võibolla vormilt teistsugused kui nende vanematel, kuid kes põhiliselt jäävad viljelema ja harrastama seda kultuuripärandit, mis vanemad neile kaugelt Läänemere äärest kaasa on toonud. Karl Arro
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Jaak Järve (06:19), Jaak Järve (20:41)
Fox Mulder25 Jan 2019 09:00
Hr. Järve,

I guess as a community, this was NEVER accomplished. Please read the following from Evi Tarkus.

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Fox Mulder (07:34), Fox Mulder (10:43), Fox Mulder (20:56)
To Meiusi's Innuendo25 Jan 2019 12:27
Why can't you list them ? Right here and now. Probably can't because Meiusi uses links to documents for any "claim " he makes .This is unlike the pro Madison faction . For example they proudly announced at T.C. that the lead donor was donating $3mil. No mention of the fact that that $ 2 mil of that sum was strictly dependent on matching funds.
Fox Mulder25 Jan 2019 12:57
Mr. Meiusi's above, so called "article" is full of innuendos probably based on conspiracies that only the naysayers can see, let alone understand.

My recent post of Evi Tarkus' revelations of the condition of EM has been with limited upgrades over the decades shows that the house is and has been in poor condition.

I can't recall Meiusi et al jumping up and down when there was talk of joining up with a developer to raze the entire facility in order to get a few square meters of space???

All he did with Ehatare was cost them additional expense defending against his baseless accusations (being the forensic accountant that he is).

Why doesn't Mr. Meiusi submit his articles to EestiElu in addition to this space? Perhaps they too classify his "cowboy" journalism as .....

Fake news - is a type of yellow journalism or propaganda that consists of deliberate disinformation or hoaxes spread via traditional print and broadcast news media or online social media.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Fox Mulder (07:34), Fox Mulder (10:43), Fox Mulder (20:56), Fox Mulder (09:00)
In Vino Veritas25 Jan 2019 19:53
Eesti Elu ei tunnusta, mis on kirjutatud Madisoni vastu.
reader25 Jan 2019 14:00
Armsad eestlased, kas teil tõesti pole paremat teha kui piniseda teineteise kallal? Küllalt juba!! Olete nagu väiksed lapsed kellet mänguasi ära võetud. Heidame silmad hoopis tuleviku poole sel asemel et taga nutta vanu aegu.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Lugeja (21:37)
Fox Mulder25 Jan 2019 15:42
Lugeja

22 Jan 2019 21:37

Either that, or trying to close the barn door after the horses have fled.

Get the Fake News / conspiracy theorists from posting and you have a deal
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Fox Mulder (07:34), Fox Mulder (10:43), Fox Mulder (20:56), Fox Mulder (09:00), Fox Mulder (12:57)
rkomendant@studiok.ca26 Jan 2019 11:05
Armas "Reader", you have some homework to do https://www.eesti.ca/vello-ehv...
Enlightening isn't it?
and while you are at it, check out the Kulturi page, and read up on our collective history, kannatus = what's makes us sooo GOOD at everything and why we will get THIS project right!

https://www.eesti.ca/book-revi...

;)
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: rkomendant@studiok.ca (03:33), rkomendant@studiok.ca (09:20), rkomendant@studiok.ca (11:27)
About that parking lot28 Jan 2019 15:03
The newly formed Tartu College Asset Management Committee (AMC) headed by Jaan Meri (Peeter Einola and Tarmo Lõbu, members) would “follow, evaluate and make recommendations regarding the TC’s financial management and projects . . . .

According to Jaan Meri the AMC finds that “ ‘cash’ is king”. Applying this principle has already brought about savings. He explained at greater length problems related to the parking lot attached to TC, over which a dispute has arisen with the City. Under the terms of the current agreement the City wants to take possession for itself of the parking lot, which could bring it a potential income of $150,000-$200,000. Dealing with this has required hiring lawyers with higher qualifications, which is very expensive. The thing may even go to court.

In addition the AMC recommends getting on with renovating the garage, where there is corrosion. The cost is estimated at $300,000. About the same amount would be required for the recommended renovations of the foyer and main floor office space. Nor has the idea to build VEMU been buried, Mr. Meri showed the sketch.

In discussion Elmar Tampõld explained the problems related to founding the Museum of Estonians Abroad (VEMU), saying „the rug was pulled out from underneath it“, referring to the concern about the parking lot. It is not worth despairing, though, since Mr. Tampõld is working on the fifth variant of this project!“


From
Värskeid tuuli Tartu College’is
Eestlased Kanadas 25 May 2007 Elle Puusaag

“Komitee jälgib, hindab ja annab soovitusi TC majandusliku juhtimise ja projektide osas . . . .

Jaan Meri sõnul leiab AMC, et „cash on kuningas“. Seda põhimõtet rakendades ongi juba saavutatud kokkuhoidu. Ta selgitas seejärel pikemalt TC juurde kuuluva parklaga seotud probleeme, mille osas on tekkinud linnaga vaidlus. Praegu kehtiva lepingu alusel tahab linn parkla enda valdusesse saada, mis talle võiks anda potentsiaalset sissetulekut 150.000–200.000 dollarit. Asjaajamiseks on tulnud palgata kõrgema kvalifikatsiooniga advokaate, mis on väga kulukas. Asi võib isegi minna kohtusse.

Teiseks soovitab AMC asuda renoveerima garaazhi, kus esineb korrosiooni. Selle töö maksumuseks on hinnaguliselt $300.000. Umbes sama palju võib maksma minna soovitatav fuajee ja peakorruse büroo renoveerimine. Ka VEMu ehitamise mõtet pole maha maetud, hr. Meri näitas selle eskiisi.

Läbirääkimiste osas selgitas Elmar Tampõld Välis-Eesti Muuseumi rajamisega seotud probleeme, öeldes, et „vaip tõmmati alt ära“, viidates parkimisplatsi murele. Meelt ei tasu aga heita, sest hr. Tampõld töötab selle projekti viienda variandi kallal!

https://www.eesti.ca/varskeid-...
?29 Jan 2019 09:41
The ECU press release was signed Board of Directors. Who was on the Board? Who did not/did/should have known the 11 Madison property could not be used for the stated purpose of a branch of the bank nor the stated proposed interim use as rental property? Who was unaware/aware of city bylaws and wrote this press release? Who was the Chair? Where is the decision-making and the accountability?
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: About that parking lot (15:03)
Toomas03 Feb 2019 09:22
On page 16 of the May 2018 Due Diligence Report, the Estonian Centre Project Budget includes between $1,563,000 and $1,676,000 for Consultants, along with between $2,296,700 and $2,342,600 for Admin and Marketing.
Holy cow! It appears that the Consultants, Admins, and Marketing folks are being handsomely paid.
When these two Soft Costs are added together, they total between $3.86M and $4.01M - a significant portion of the overall Project Budget.
Are there Audited Financials that show expenditures to date, and can they be shared with Estonian House shareholders? That would go a long way to rebuilding some trust and transparency.
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