Stiilidest järeldasin et Jaak ja Maxim on üks ja sama, aga nüüd arvan et Jaak võiks ka Peter olla, kohalik kiiksuga mees kes viimasel ajal on vaikne olnud.
Maxim nüüd lubas jalga lasta. Kui teised jätkavad tema tööd siis toimetus peaks olukorra korrale kutsuma. Seda tegelikult ammugi.

Maxim was once a member of Vironia. I'm sure that there are plenty of people who could name him.

If people like him knew that they were going to be exposed, some of them might sober up a bit before mouthing off.

You insult every Estonian worldwide when you write "...However, I also believe in universal human rights: as they applied to Estonians during the occupation and as they ..." Tell the women who were raped by the Russians. Tell the people who died in the Gulags. Tell the children who died at the hands of the Russians or lost their parents. How dare you write that there were human rights for Estonians during the occupation. Can you tell I am plenty angry. People like you should be investigated by the KAPO . You are the low life . You want me to forget . NEVER.

I'm sorry, it should have read:
"As they should have applied..."

" ... accomplished since the Russians left." When did they leave ? Last night ? Did you leave with them ? Don't insult our intelligence Maxim.

I'm sure you'd pay it a visit.
It's no fun agreeing with everyone all day . . . is it?

It would, howver, be sad to see the vistor numbers drop on this site though. Perhaps, if the discussion moderator would consider filtering the abuse . . . . even post a ban warning. . . .

No one is interested in Maxim's message. (Who wants to be lectured and insulted by someone with obvious mental problems?)

His supporters were asked to speak up. There were no results.

Have you ever wondered why Maxim hasn't composed an article for EE just like Adu Raudkivi has done? Instead, Maxim rides on the tail of Raudkivi's article, stealing the space designated for comments on his thoughtful and hard work. Have you wondered why?

Perhaps it's because Maxim's here with other intentions. He says that he wants to explore ideas. But, what he actually does is work off his grudge against our community with taunts and insults.

Do you think that he is capable of writing a conventional article? It's unimaginable. His prose isn't sufficiently coherent and logical to meet the standard of a high-school composition class. Some of it strongly suggests that, in Maxim's mind, there's a tornado of rage and confusion which has blinded him to everything beyond itself. If you doubt this, go to the archives and examine the exchange between Maxim and Merilo. A play-write couldn't compose a more poignant collision between madness and reason. How can anyone take Maxim seriously?

And there's a suggestion for a moderator to screen abusive commentary out of dialogue. Problem: Maxim is abusive and wouldn't make it through the screen. Result: no dialogue.

. . . and I rest my case.

This morning in Estonia, many people are awakening to the fear that a blindly driven racist is soon to set up a "think tank" in Rapla, looking at the possibility of making Estonia a spingboard for racism in the "near abroad". Today in Canada, my critics have overwhelmingly acted and spoken out with such anti-Russian venom which they conveniently cover up with every sordid analogy of putting "Maxim" behind "cyberspacial bars". I think that the time has finally come for Maxim to admit defeat, and let EE continue to do its work in a peacable manner. When I set up my own website (which I promise will be EXTRAORDINARILY INTERESTING) reading-I can't imagine that Anonymous of Mr Merilo will not at least once come to visit....then again...and again and again...because it will be the most interesting reading this side of the Atlantic!) I hope to meet with some of you again. Till then-best of luck to all..... no malice intended in the way my critics do with me!

Yes, there is a case of someone from Chicago having gone to Estonia recently. Narrowmindedness is something that is getting its way these days. Let's hope people are able to control their rage.

I'm pleased that you have decided to set up your own web-site. Sincerely, I wish you good luck with it so that you can put your message out to those who wish to hear it.
Don't expect a visit from me. I would go there only if I thought that I could get an answer to something that puzzles me -- why do you have such a profound grudge against the Canada's Estonian community? -- and I can't imagine an honest airing of that issue. So, there will be nothing for me there, just more of what we've already read here.
Your announcement to "let EE continue to do its work in a peaceable manner" is welcome and it puts the sincerity into my best wishes to you.
I hope that this is our last communication.

http://www.postimees.ee/021106...

"This morning in Estonia, many people are awakening to the fear that a blindly driven racist is soon to set up a "think tank" in Rapla, looking at the possibility of making Estonia a spingboard for racism in the "near abroad". Today in Canada, my critics have overwhelmingly acted and spoken out with such anti-Russian venom which they conveniently cover up with every sordid analogy of putting "Maxim" behind "cyberspacial bars". I think that the time has finally come for Maxim to admit defeat, and let EE continue to do its work in a peacable manner. When I set up my own website (which I promise will be EXTRAORDINARILY INTERESTING) reading-I can't imagine that Anonymous of Mr Merilo will not at least once come to visit....then again...and again and again...because it will be the most interesting reading this side of the Atlantic!) I hope to meet with some of you again. Till then-best of luck to all..... no malice intended in the way my critics do with me!"

Maxim - I checked out the wbsite of the "One Peoples Project" if you are calling this organization a "think tank" you are sadly mistaken.

If you think this type of organization will have any major influence on an intelligent society such as the one Eesti, you are being very naive and poorly informed.

Maxim/Jaak could you please explain to the readers what the difference between the 4 or 5 years of German occupation and the nearly 60 years of Soviet occupation were?

Also what is so wrong about Eesti turning to the "west" for socioeconomic growth?

Well, I [i]for one[i] am relieved that Maxim is leaving.

Mind you, it has occasionally been amusing… like Maxim and his [i]imaginary friend Jaak[i] writing to each other.

We all know of pre-school children who invent and play with their imaginary friends… but when this extends into adulthood, it is an indication of a serious disorder.

Yes, yes I know… when I say [i]adulthood[i] in reference to Maxim, I am making a questionable assumption.

The Rapla fella is also part of stormfront.org. I'm sure you're all familiar with that one?

PS does this string break the record for most posts? And if so, do I win a prize for sending post #100?

Your language reminds me of that which was used by communist revolutionaries in Russia and Estonia

Is it possible that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

What is it that your rage is hiding?

I can't believe I've been drawn into a school yard shoving match by ignorant, extremist bullies.

Maxim: you really should start a Blog with english language entries:
an english language source for objective views on current Estonian issues.

I've left my email if you're interested and need help with setup.

Maxim. We all encourage you to set up your own blog.

There's an advantage: to get your message out, you would no longer have to humiliate yourself by poaching in the area dedicated to comments on EE articles.

It's balanced by a disadvantage: you would lose your readership and you would no longer be able to insult, goad and taunt Estonians. We wouldn't be there to read that we're Nazi sympathizers or collaborators, that Lutherans are the "low-lifes" of Estonian society, that Estonian women "entertained" the German troops, or that Soviet troops liberated Estonia. [This list is illustrative, not comprehensive.]

I'm not sure how you've come to the concludion that the commentator MUST be Estonian. I think the view - if I remember correctly- taken by Bush regarding the extremist website was fairly positive.
Given the tone and content of the previous 'anti-Maxim' posts it would seem more likely that these people would support such a website.
Also, why would a handful of Estonian hooligans try to influence opinion in Toronto: it doesn't add up.

I think most of us can determine what's written by a local (Canadian) Estonian, vs one in Eesti.

I'm not sure that the language in the previous posts would indicate anything other than a Canadian posting.
I think this is Red Herring.

Wow. . .
This threatening language and behaviour are totally uncalled for.
I would suggest that someone from this site ban the previous poster. Behaviour such as this would not be tolerated on a mainstream website.

Could you tell us what you are talking about?...... Where is the threat in this posting?

Maxim. You have done this before. When somebody calls you for being wrong, you retreat into irrationality, or, as someone put it, "bovine obduracy". (Has a nice ring to it, and appropriate too.)

I'll sign off with one of your phrases -- "Better luck next time!"

Thank you!
I for one am SICK of Maxim's ramblings here!
He's obviously a has-been, looking for an audience.

I too thank whoever contributed this post; I am astonished that someone actually remembered a thread that was up for so short a period last week. And I can assure you, Maxim, that I am not writing posts to [i]myself (as you and Jaak are).[i]

The ongoing assault on balanced discussion is why young Canadian Estonians like me refuse to get involved with any meaningful community organization.

The ad hominem attacks issued by extremists on this board are embarrassing and insulting - you too Merilo.

Again, I ask for the moderator of the forum to scrutinize the previous posts for abusive language and ban those who exploit this forum for personal, slanderous attack.

What about the 80% EKP membership in Laskurkorpus? You never gave me an answer.

Can I assume that you'll respond with name calling?

I have not seen any obusive language here, nor out and out slander. If someone wanted to get slanderous, they would name names.

I agree in every respect-this is balanced discussion, except for the people who are hell bent on getting Jaak and Maxim blackballed. The tone of our critics is simply outrageous, when you add up what the actual discussion is about. Most responses are completely uncalled for, except that I've forgotten the narrow-mindedness of my generation. In Estonia you are able to express yourself much more freely. I think this is a great shame, and is the core reason for people leaving the community. Let's counter that drift and welcome polarized opinion here, contrary to what Anonymous and Merilo suggest.

I refer you to any posts with 'Maxim' in the subject title.

That's odd. . .
I didn't know they allowed internet access in the building at the foot of Ossington at Queen. . .

Ha Ha!
Another example of your inability to discuss the issue.
No ideas . . . just intense rage towards someone who IS able forumlate an original idea.

Since you weren't able to effectively argue the 80% EKP membership in Laskurkorpus you've gone ad hominem to cover up your complete ignorance. All of your arguments are rooted in hate and are without any substance whatsoever.

Ha Ha . . .keep 'em coming. . . .

Jaak, now you know how I feel week in, week out. But in the end our love for the fatherland, our hopes for a better future are the values which will ultimately succeed all the nonsense that seems to come up with stubborn resilience. And without putting too fine a point on it; you'll obviously have to find out the hard way, as I have, that our collective critical calibre is intellectually pretty impotent!

I read that post and understood it as intended. No one responded on it, so there appears to be no need for an apology or further explanation. It's decent of you to try to be decent though.

Like others, I'm simply mystified and appalled by Maxim's behavior here. I don't know what he is trying to accomplish but the result is consistent: he always makes a fool of himself with manic tenacity. That he believes that he has one critic among an adoring mob of loyal fans makes me doubt his sanity. It's an embarrassing thing to witness.

I have collected more than enough evidence from postings made during the past six months to note that it is ONLY when I write under the name "Maxim" are the responses cruel and harsh. This strongly suggests a highly distorted anti-Russian mentality continuing in the younger generation. Never have I praised Soviet occupation, but wherever possible those words and intentions have been clearly put into my mouth; but more worrying has been the "seizure of hate" that springs from a desire to express anti-Russian feelings at "Maxim". And I don't think that anti-Russian attitude should come as any surprise to readers of these exchanges. However, it makes me even more aware how intolerant some of you can be, when in Estonia coming to terms with Soviet Occupation has taken a much more humane route than some of you could ever imagine. And to think you live in a multicultural society-it really makes one wonder sometimes.

Maxim's sense of self-importance combined with his inability to express himself made me think that he was someone stuck in his teens.
I was stunned when someone said that he was born in 1939. Could it be true?

How old are you Maxim?