One move no longer an option for Estonian House tenants
Kommentaarid on kirjutatud EWR lugejate poolt. Nende sisu ei pruugi ühtida EWR toimetuse seisukohtadega.
VanemadUuemad
:18 Jun 2022 07:46
For some reason I think DK will finish their 14 storeys before KESKUS will finish their two.
An Observer18 Jun 2022 18:55
Markus, Have you forgotten the $75,000 payoff that you sought for the rifle club? Keskus could be $75,000 better off were it not for this amount. By the way, in the way of transparency, what happened to these funds? I await your next article. As no doubt do others.
Markus Alliksaar20 Jun 2022 16:29
How could the Keskus be in any perceptible better shape by TEPP not accepting the *mutually agreed upon* settlement?

The sale of this property will probably net somewhere in the $12 million range. The construction cost is well north of $40 million (and rising).

Wake up and smell the coffee...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Markus Alliksaar (16:26)
Silent Majority19 Jun 2022 22:04
Ah yes another holier than thou article by the King of Monday Morning Quarterbacks. The Prince of could’ve should’ve would’ve. The Earl of I know what’s best for you. The Emperor of take your medicine. The Queen of “Look at Me”!!!

Sheesh, glad you were kicked off the Board.
Vana Tark19 Jun 2022 22:12
This article is probably the most useless I’ve ever seen. Hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Silent Majority (22:04)
Markus Alliksaar20 Jun 2022 16:26
Hey "Silent majority":

I see that your memory is deficient (or selective). I resigned bc I realized at the time that the deal had big problems. To make it clear to lunkheads like you, I put all my reasons in writing that were published at EWR and Eesti Elu. Remember that?
Klaunide paraad21 Jun 2022 08:50
The author of this article clearly has an axe to grind with the KESKUS board. Such vitriol, such vanity.
road not taken23 Jun 2022 19:16
Here is what the local City Councillor reports in her Broadview Development Update on the Former Estonian House, and where is the “plaque" for the Estonian cultural heritage site?

"The heritage Chester School House which was entombed in the Estonian House for decades will be restored, with units inside and a small park located in front with a heritage plaque. There has been a suggestion that there should be more recognition of the incredible heritage of this neighbourhood and I am looking into ways to achieve this." Is there no one in this community, no architect of renown, for example, no community leadership, prepared and positioned to speak (credibly) with the Councillor about a recognition of the Estonian cultural heritage site?

Meantime, the telling of the history of the Estonian diasporic community by VEMU has been assigned by KESKUS to a group... from Estonia! Who are these people?

It's one thing for an individual to take some time to sort out the truth, but it's truly astonishing that the big branders at TC don't understand what they've left undone.

Today's headline quote in the Financial Times reportedly from the Estonian PM is about Estonia being wiped off the map. Aren't we thrilled to have had some kind of "aircraft" being promoted in Estonia by Ellen Valter as being “built” "while it's taking off" at Madison? I got the impression from THAT update in Postimees that they’re on to this mania.

https://www.postimees.ee/73144...

“Toronto Eesti Maja müük lõpetati 1. septembril eelmisel aastal. Raha on nüüd käes. Meil on maja ostjaga üürileping, me saame seda maja kasutada, nagu oleme seda seni teinud. Saame [uue hoone] ehitusega peagi pihta hakata, sest kõik vajalikud load saame kohe kätte.” Aug. 13, 2021
observer25 Jun 2022 20:03
The local councilor is referring to the architectural heritage of the building not the cultural heritage.
fyi to observer26 Jun 2022 06:14
"While the role of historical architecture is well understood, buildings …that help tell the story of our past, are also very important for their historical context… It is important to know where the heritage value of the historic place lies, along with its condition, evolution, and past and current importance to communities. The traditional practices associated with the historic place and the interrelationship between the historic place and its context should also be considered."


https://www.toronto.ca/city-go...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: road not taken (19:16)
What is cultural heritage?26 Jun 2022 17:26
Here is a tour, with many heritage plaques, of an era that overlaps with but differs from the sociohistorical era of Estonian House, and the Councillor is clear about Chester School as a nearby cultural heritage site:

https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs...

https://www.heritagetrust.on.c...

The Councillor cannot be faulted for not knowing what the “addition” was in the back of the Estonian House – or that the Estonian House was so much more than a “tomb” for Chester Public School! The Councillor celebrates the cultural heritage of the Chester School. I’m not sure a significant group understands the concept so it’s worth looking at the example closely, as Eesti Elu / Estonian Life finally refused to do when an article turned its gaze on the pursuit of economic and political power and the writing of history (arguably forsaking professional duties to deny reach through print); that refusal may be repeated of late in regards to public debate and discussion, a well-informed community, and critical decision-making about the Columbarium and St. Peter’s Church.

“Chester School, built in 1981, sic [1890-1891) is the oldest surviving school of the former municipality of East York and is valued for its 135 year association with the historic villages of Chester and Todmorden, East York and the current Broadview-Danforth neighbourhood….

The school closed in 1959 and was purchased by Estonian House who undertook a series of additions. In 1963 an addition was added to the back of the school and in the 1970's one was added to the front essentially concealing the heritage building from view. Fortunately, the original school building retains its integrity…”

The Councillor is referring foremost to a cultural heritage, from an industrial era before the post-war waves of immigrants and refugees who established multicultural urban communities. They are known to heritage architects who have argued for the preservation of places of “ethnic” cultural heritage before they’re all gone in the pressure to intensify building, regardless of whether they constitute recognized architectural heritage, as many do, and whether they have achieved widely recognized distinction yet or not. “Modern Scandinavian” only appeared as a category in the very latest Toronto Architecture: A City Guide, and not yet in 1975, the year of the second addition to Estonian House incorporating that style, nor a revised edition in 1989.

“A well-designed forecourt public park designed in accordance with City design guidelines in front of the proposed redevelopment could serve as an ideal location for a heritage plaque commemorating the oldest surviving school in former East York….”

For comparison, look at the lead photo of the Globe and Mail article on Estonian architecture in Toronto. It’s a photo of St. Peter’s Church. Know that our academic colleagues and friends at Tartu College displayed to the "Architourist" journalist, invited guests and all visitors to their historical architectural exhibit, false information about the architect of the Grand Hall (the Councillor’s “addition”) at Estonian House, thereby concealing, and literally effacing the historical record, had this gone unnoticed, of the renowned connection (one and the same architect) that should have garnered attention and facilitated debate and discussion over the fate of Estonian House in all its historic and developing aspects as a hybrid cultural and architectural heritage site.

https://www.theglobeandmail.co...

Perhaps the Councillor knows what they’ve done, and not done, and is speaking ironically, without hiding her feelings about this community and its reputation. “Fortunately”, she writes, “the original school building retains its integrity”. Yet this is an unfortunate gloss, as this does not happen by itself. The architects and engineers at Estonian House “retained [the] integrity” of the original school building; and built valuable additions. Faced with decisions involving demolition and annihilation, (with at least some knowledge of history) the architects of KESKUS have chosen to look the other way. Why? Because they were asked to work on another project?

How long before the community who’ve been courted in the Madison neighbourhood get tired of looking at a construction ghost site? Another issue of rules and purpose:
https://www.blogto.com/city/20...

If there is no need to spend time regretting past mistakes, it is because in the years to come, you can still try to get things done and not let regrets and mistakes happen again.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: road not taken (19:16), fyi to observer (06:14)
Fake History05 Jul 2022 09:51
Our history is fake. Chester School is much older than what is claimed. They did not build stuff like that in our little pioneer village with horses and buggies. We can't even build that stuff today. Just little glass cubes.

Have a look at what Harbord Collegiate looked like before they rebuilt it. They show pictures on Google Images.

Research Tartaria.

Open your eyes.

https://www.bitchute.com/video...
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