How the West is helping Red China
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Curious05 Aug 2005 09:33
To Maxim,

Since you seem to know all about them, what are the Masons doing about this?
.05 Aug 2005 11:02
Maxim has already barked himself hoarse about the Freemasons. More of that would be tedious; so it's time to give him (and us) a chance to recover.
We should let sleeping dogs lie.

The editors of Eesti Elu should exercise some authority to restrict content to themes associated with Estonian interests. Otherwise, there's a danger that kooks or misfits can use the opportunity for anonymous commentary as a podium for broadcasting crackpot ideas or venom.

The Eesti Päevaleht recently stopped accepting anonymous commentary and it's probably not coincidental that their policy changed upon a series of appalling comments, in English, from someone called "Siil." He has also appeared in Eesti Elu so, as discomforting as it may be, Siil might be one of our community.

Surely, it wouldn't violate the principle of free speech if the likes of Siil, Väike Manituu, Peter and Maxim were to be discouraged from excessively repeating themselves.
Albert08 Aug 2005 17:45
The press in Estonia being what it is, your following comment is curious.>The editors of Eesti Elu should exercise some authority to restrict content to themes associated with Estonian interests. Otherwise, there's a danger that kooks or misfits can use the opportunity for anonymous commentary as a podium for broadcasting crackpot ideas or venom.

And are you suggesting that EE limit itself to publishing only parochial issues, or only about pensioners and lasteaed? I'm not certain what it is that you are asking for - although I will agree, that certain "kooks and misfits" seem to be the primary commentators on these pages. And as the comments to the Estonian Central Council series show, the spittle and froth have nothing to do with the article posted.

Finally, don't you think that Raudkivi's points about the world's only significant remaining communist regime - and according to last week's Economist a country that is ready to take over much of the world's economy, leading the Economist to suggest that at the very least China be admitted to the G-7 - are not of interest to Estonians, people who have suffered - and some may argue are still suffering - under the delusions of the communist ideology?
Peter09 Aug 2005 06:27
To: . It sounds to me that you would be very happy living in a country like China where the government decides what kind of opinions are permitted.
to Peter09 Aug 2005 09:16
The space provided by Eesti Elu for readers' responses is often hijacked by kooks for unrelated purposes. Väike Manituu, for an undiagnosed deficiency, is compelled to jeer at "väliseestlased". Maxim alerts us to secret conspiracies as if he were the man of vision within a kingdom of the blind. Peter likes to chew his anti-semitic cud, expose the Canadian Government as something worse than the Soviet, and take his peers to task for failing to live as he thinks they should.
Is Eesti Elu obliged to give them space? If so, why?
to .08 Aug 2005 08:22
it is truly sad that you are unhappy about the freedom of speech that eesti elu offers, and you want to stifle other people's ability to communicate .... if some comments bore or displease you, ignore or make comment ... personally, i much prefer to read maxim's comments over someone's inane, shallow parroting of standard media drivel .... if there are some comments posted that are offensive - editors can choose to remove them .... re the new eesti päevaleht policy, it seems to have been created at the same time the paper made a strong move to start supporting soviet-russian policies, and i for one am choosing to read that site far less often, as is my choice
to - Peter et. al.09 Aug 2005 09:36
Are you -- Väike Manituu, Maxim and Peter -- paid up subscribers to Eesti Elu? If not, why do you think that the rest of us should pay for your opportunity to loud-mouth and bray? How do you think that Eesti Elu survives? Go hide your faces in shame!
(The self-important types everywhere think that the rules shouldn't apply to them.)
to the last two09 Aug 2005 10:57
do you think reading your comments is interesting for anybody ?
Joking?09 Aug 2005 11:01
Why should they subscribe to the paper? As far as I know about the subscribers, most only read the print, not on the web. Why have the owners of Eesti Elu given this space for commenting. perhaps it is for improving their product, though, the vast majority of these comments detract fromrather than improve the intial article.

As many people say, kui sinul pole midagit hääd öelda, ära tee suur suu lahti.
Anonymous09 Aug 2005 13:12
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EEle09 Aug 2005 13:32
Miks ei tohiks keegi avaldada oma mõtteid ? Kui kellelgil ei meeldi, mingu loegu kuskilt mujalt.
a subscriber09 Aug 2005 13:56
Eesti Elu is a newspaper of commendable quality. Considering the size of its staff, budget and readership, it's actually a newspaper of astounding quality. Where else, dear reader, can we find writers comparable to Purje, Puusaag, or Mikiver? I say, "nowhere", and I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.
If you appreciate quality journalism on Estonian issues, please subscribe even if you primarily read the online issue. The older generation of print readers is shrinking and must be replaced paying subscribers.
Anonymous10 Aug 2005 05:37
Many newspapers are now requiring paid subscriptions to access their online version. I don't really care to receive the print version but would pay for online access.
We're of one mind11 Aug 2005 11:24
I subscribe to the print version - redundantly- because I've read the online edition before it arrives.
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