Observations while volunteering our time at Eesti Maja
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to imagination21 Mar 2017 07:35
Yes, EM is still in business with Alterra.
We have been lead to believe that the Alterra LOI ended - but this is not true.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: lauluvend (08:12), to observer - shareholder (07:59)
:21 Mar 2017 12:00
The problem with Laikve "proposal" is the fact that it is nothing more than an opinion. There is little to no research, concrete proposals, etc.

The second problem is the money. We need money to renovate, where would it come from? The Alterra, Tribute plan got monies from developers, the TC plan relies money from the sale of current EM. No sale of EM, no building at TC.

It is possible that the same developer will end up buying EM, without the baggage of building a community centre.
to :21 Mar 2017 12:52
Something is a "problem" when you don't want to do it.

If the TC/Madison proposal turns out to be a hollow shell of a building skirting the perimeter of the present city parking lot (we'll find out on Mar 29), then Laikve's vision has legs. A plan could follow.

If money is needed, then we find the money. Do you know how the Estonian House was built the first time around? Members of the community invested their money, that's what made it a community venture -- people had "skin in the game".
:21 Mar 2017 13:27
I hope you are right about the money, but the community was a lot bigger and more generous back in 50s. We were Estonians back then, now we have just a bunch of "estos" who, if we are lucky, come to 'aktus' and eat 'kringel'.

Natural progression of refugees and immigrants, every community goes through the same cycle.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: : (12:00)
to :21 Mar 2017 15:54
Our parent's generation used their meager savings to fund the first house and put many of us through school to become doctors, lawyers, architects, engineers and an endless list of other well paid professionals. Our not financially supporting the build of a new Estonian House would be a sad statement about the following generation of Estonians.

Just to get the ball rolling 10 donors x $10,000 = $100,000 and so on. There has been no community campaign to date. Neither talk of applications to grants. I have heard of other fund generating options using insurance, etc.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: to : (12:52)
to vanemad - shareholders21 Mar 2017 13:07
your right, it is a proposal, one that EM Board ASKED Laikve to provide. After which the Board decided (not the shareholders) that it was not suitable. But ALL OF YOU are missing the point...it's not about one design vs another. It's about the fact that there are OTHER proposals (not just Laikve's) to be considered, all of which have not been discussed or presented by the EM Board to its shareholders. Here is my question...why are we selling a 8 millon dollar lot to buy a 2 million dollar lot...it is irrelevant what's on it....land is the value. Broadview and Madison are both downtown locations, both will grow in value.
to "ball rolling"21 Mar 2017 18:20
There is an organization that is specifically collecting funds to repair/maintain/improve the Estonian House. These are volunteers who have carried out much needed repairs/paint/clean up and carpeting ALL at NO EXPENSE to the shareholders. The EM Board has chosen NOT to endorse these volunteers or the work they are doing. In other words the EM Board do not endorse the repair of the Estonian House.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: to Tiina (11:28)
to: to ball rolling21 Mar 2017 19:27
The Friends of EH are doing wonderful work. A capital campaign should be anchored with a charitable organization that can write out tax receipts to donors. Either an existing Estonian charity organization or perhaps creating a new one specific to the EH build, whatever it ends up being. I see the Friends working in partnership with such a charitable organization to maximize donations.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: to : (12:52), to : (15:54)
to to imagination25 Mar 2017 19:33
Here are images and a description of what architect Kongats did to much acclaim, to renovate a mid-century (1954) building not far from Eesti Maja:

https://robertmoffatt115.wordp...
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: looking ahead with imagination (14:23), imagination (11:02), To to imagination (16:13), Reconsidering the future of EM (21:24)
Also to 'to imagination'25 Mar 2017 20:05
And here is Kongats' surprising restoration and renovation of a historic library building which is said to have brought renewed life to the community. The story is itself worth a read. Kongats' work on the original 1923 building below and the 1954 building above can be compared with his sketch for the new Madison project that Eda Sepp analyzes in her recent article.

https://www.canadianarchitect....
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: looking ahead with imagination (14:23), imagination (11:02), To to imagination (16:13), Reconsidering the future of EM (21:24), to to imagination (19:33)
shareholder26 Mar 2017 09:07
I am looking forward to the Town Hall Meeting on the 29th. I would like to ask if Guido Laikve would be willing to submit his professional opinion of the 9 Madison site, so that the shareholders can better understand this proposal.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: to Tiina (11:28), to "ball rolling" (18:20)
to shareholder26 Mar 2017 10:00
Great idea!
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: to Tiina (11:28), to "ball rolling" (18:20), shareholder (09:07)
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