Patriotism – no place for it in the modern world?
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anniversary15 Dec 2013 04:32
Samuel Johnson (18 September 1709 [O.S. 7 September] – 13 December 1784)

On the evening of 7 April 1775, he made the famous statement, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
!15 Dec 2013 07:07
Can you enlighten us with your interpretation of the quote you have cited?
M15 Dec 2013 12:15
I cannot speak for the opinions of the original commenter, but Wiki says the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

“The general notion of civic virtue and group dedication has been attested in culture globally throughout the historical period. For the Enlightenment thinkers of 18th-century Europe, loyalty to the state was chiefly considered in contrast to loyalty to the Church. It was argued that clerics should not be allowed to teach in public schools since their patrie was heaven, so that they could not inspire love of the homeland in their students. One of the most influential proponents of this classical notion of patriotism was Jean-Jacques Rousseau.[1]
Enlightenment thinkers also criticized what they saw as the excesses of patriotism. In 1774, Samuel Johnson published The Patriot, a critique of what he viewed as false patriotism. On the evening of 7 April 1775, he made the famous statement, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."[6] James Boswell, who reported this comment in his Life of Johnson, does not provide context for the quote, and it has therefore been argued that Johnson was in fact attacking the false use of the term "patriotism" by contemporaries such as John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute (the patriot-minister) and his supporters; Johnson spoke elsewhere in favour of what he considered "true" patriotism.[7]”

My personal view is that "love of the homeland" and helping one's community (especially in places like Estonia, which have had very broken and damaged histories) are very worth-while endeavors.
Pat17 Dec 2013 06:37
With a population of 1.3 million people, we Estonians are a small group of people who need to stick together and support each other. We are family. That is my definiton of Estonian patriotism.
to Pat17 Dec 2013 08:53
What you say is true.
I'm proud to be Estonian!
Most of us, both at home and abroad, are good people that anyone would wish to have as a neighbour.
Our language is very beautiful. Beyond Estonia's borders, it's as useless as Shakespeare or Goethe.
It's a pity that we don't try to develop our appreciation of it.
M120 Dec 2013 16:17
Reply comment: Interest in Estonian language not declining as fast as you think.

When Putin spoke “Tere tere. Vana kere” this week at a Russian press conference (but he meant the Estonian “vana pere” for “old family”; http://www.postimees.ee/263717... ), some of us were reminded that the Ukraine is also now a “brotherly country” for Putin as he solidifies Ukraine’s move away from the EU ( http://www.diena.lv/pasaule/pu... ).
In the anticipated upcoming push and pull for EU versus Eurasian Union loyalties, will we next see a rising interest in the Estonian language among high level officials on both sides? Some are betting on seeing such trends for 2014.
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