Rise of the machines
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Jaak Tartu19 Jul 2012 10:04
Would it be fair to compare Jaan Tallinn to other great innovators, such as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs? If not, he can't be too far off. That said, he's sounding a false alarm here.
In one sense, machines are already smarter than humans -- they beat us at chess -- yet, they remain our slaves. They'll never evolve to the point where they could emancipate themselves from human control; for example, they'll never prevent us from pushing the "stop" button or pulling the plug from the wall socket.

Question for Jaan: where did you get the funny name -- Tallinn; not Jaan?
no computer geek, but...20 Jul 2012 09:34
...yes, but I think the question has more to do with the programmers.

If a programer programs a computer to protect itself from harm, could we not be in a situation where we lock ourselves out, so to speak? That we lose control? Technology is getting so complicated and fast-paced. We are the ones who are going to screw this up.

Am I wrong?
Juks21 Jul 2012 11:42
Re: "In one sense, machines are already smarter than humans -- ..."

Not true at all. They are faster. Way-way faster and they have more memory. What you can do with this, depends on us - humans. But before we can program machines to be smart(er), we need to fully understand how we work ...
aprehensive of tech in future29 Jul 2012 14:51
In addition to amazing speed, computers don't have "human error".
I must say, the thought of a future world with lightning-speed and more sophisticated computers/technology is daunting.

Even today, more and more people are being laid off because of more sophisticated technology.

What jobs will there be left for people to do in the future? It seems that we are heading for a future with massive unemployment because technology is being modified and improved -- machines are taking over people's jobs. I don't see this working out well for humankind.
Robot30 Jul 2012 08:53
It looks like you would like to go back to the ice age. Some people thought the same during the industrial revolution. Get an education and you will do fine.
to Robot30 Jul 2012 14:52
Dear Robot

That's easy for you to say...in time you will be putting teachers out of work too, and we will be relegated to taking lessons from you on a computer screen in the future!
ROBOT30 Jul 2012 21:41
What is wrong with that ? Computer screens don't belong to unions , call in sick and don't pass on their biases.
to Robot02 Aug 2012 06:32
Dear Mr. Robot

You may not understand the predicament for humans, since you do not need sustenance. Humans do need to replenish their bodies with food. Present society has evolved to the point where people go to work and earn a wage so that they can provide for themselves and their families.

If you and other machines eventually end up in the distant future doing let's say 80% of all work necessary for humans and you replace a good percentage of the human workforce, then that would mean that only a small percentage of the population (the most adaptive and fittest to "survive") would live well, while the rest of humankind would have to eke out an existence in abject poverty. A society of haves and mainly have nots.
I am basing this on, of course, the present model of society, where human work is the currency of physical human survival for the mass of people living on this planet.
Lugeja20 Jul 2012 20:59
I totally agree. The machines are not smart. Today's machines do nothing a programmer has not directed it to do. Show me a true AI computer? We do not understand what the consciousness is. How can we replicate something we do not understand? It is fancy speculating about though. The reality is boring for some rich bozos.
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