“Democracy” in Russia has more than one meaning
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Yes11 Feb 2010 17:03
A very good article! Would the author, please, answer the same questions about Estonia.
Toomas Merilo12 Feb 2010 13:14
While a quick read of the article will reveal, that Laas is only "passing on" an article or its parts, his contribution appears to be nil (aside from discovering its source and forwarding the contents).

If this is the case, he should not have ascribed (misleadingly) his name to it.

That being said, the article is of interest, since it appears that the average RF citizen shares the values/interpretation of their leaders. Could it be that state control of the media plays a part?

That was rhetorical, Maxim, in case you didn't get it.
ask any farmer...13 Feb 2010 07:43
... until disturbed, a manure pile doesn't stink.

With that in mind, let's not provoke Maxim. He has been mercifully quiet of late.
or psychiatrist for that matte14 Feb 2010 12:34
But Maxim is mentally disturbed...
Baltic Lass14 Feb 2010 08:53
This "newspaper" is not written nor run by professional journalists and as such, the rules of typical journalism are haphazardly applied, if at all.

It serves as a great community tool for finding out the latest event but when it comes to journalism, it is sorely in need of an editor with professional skilsl and experience.
to Baltic Lass15 Feb 2010 06:16
Your criticism is unfair.
The Estonian part of the newspaper is very good by every measure.
The English part leaves something to be desired. Toomas Merilo's comment, above, is fair but misdirected to Laas, rather than the English-language editor. It's also a part that editor's job to edit the language. He often fails here.
A professional newspaper? What's that? Certainly not something like the Toronto Star which refuses to distinguish editorials from news reports.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: ask any farmer... (07:43)
Maxim15 Feb 2010 13:04
Laas has and will continue to do more for the Estonian community than our regular armchair critic Toomas Merilo has or ever will do. To his credit, occasionally TM makes an interesting observation, but he doesn't cut the mustard anywhere near as well as Laas has succeeded in doing. As for the other pitiful remarks which some of my regular critics try to get under my skin, I can only say that my unfailing confidence in this newspapers wonderful editorial board will never tempt me to stoop to the same guttural decrepit games they pursue here week in week out. I have never tired of the nonsense nor will I succumb to their overt pressure to express my rights as much as they presume the right to express theirs.
Mare16 Feb 2010 00:04
whether you like the content of the toronto star or not, it does adhere to pretty strict rules of journalism. The grammar and syntax and style are on a much higher plane than that of most television reporting or of Toronto school English teachers for that matter.

At least there are "Opinion" pieces, labeled as such, in the big dailies on our continent. The writers may be ignorant of great chunks of history or have little cultural awareness, and may be shamelessly lazy at doing research, they nevertheless hold to a set of traditional rules of style and writing techniques, syntax and grammar.. Community newspapers, like the Mirror, also uphold these standards, but Eesti Elu doesn't have professional Canadian/US/British newspaper editing input -- eg. people who have studied journalism or have a track record professionally, even on the most basic level, of what is required in order to garner respect or credibility in that field. That said, however, EESTI ELU has some GREAT ARTICLES FOR SURE> And IT INFORMS US OF MANY THINGS> To me its a VALUABLE POSTER BOARD, pot pourri of many things- wild and rambling. BUT YES, it lacks consistency in its standards and an overview of how to organize news, editorial and feature content -- and of photos
Baltic Lass16 Feb 2010 01:34
Was primarily referring to the English portion.

If one has studied or been trained in journalism, it becomes obvious that EE is lacking in some areas. But much of Canadian journalism has this same problem. This appears to be from a lack of professional journalism training, or inadequate training.

Overall, still feel that EE functions best as a great website/portal for the community vs. as a newspaper.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Baltic Lass (08:53), Baltic Lass (08:55)
Reality Check16 Feb 2010 11:21
Interesting piece but agree with Merilo's point about the by-line.
The situation regarding the newspaper needs to be reviewed. It's limping along as a welfare case within the community: not viable as a commercial entity and a drain on resources that could be used to provide much needed updgrades to materials in Estonian schools and elsewhere etc.
As for professionalism: how do you expect to attract anyone with talent to a paper that 1) cannot offer a decent salary 2) isn't read by anyone? Having said that, I think Pr. Puusaag has done a wonderful job with the limited tools she has to work with - archaic political views notwithstanding.
Let's not forget that all of the news published here is available on the many Estonian news sites as well as major western news sites. While this site seems to have become a dumping place for conspiracy theories and stamp-collection tid-bits, it does still feature some useful community based news republished from the paper edition.
absolut17 Feb 2010 09:52
EE is a great website/portal for the community!
For instance, many of us living in Joekaaru, who do not speak the language (and thus never attend meetings), and even for those who do, would never have learned of the knife being stabbed into our collective backs by its leaders there. Thank you EE! Carry on the good work.
Baltic Lass14 Feb 2010 08:55
This "newspaper" is not written nor run by professional journalists and as such, the rules of typical journalism are haphazardly applied, if at all.

The way it is set up, it serves as a great community tool for finding out the latest local events etc. but when it comes to journalism, it is sorely in need of an editor with professional skills and experience.
Samalt IP numbrilt on siin varem kommenteerinud: Baltic Lass (08:53)
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