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0Is the Eesti Elu now competeing with the "National Enquirer".
Next week how the aliens are taking over Tartu!
Next week how the aliens are taking over Tartu!
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0please provide your version of events in the sinking of the Estonia in 1994 ... this will enable ee readers to have all relevant information for making up their own minds on this very tragic and secretive event
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0The Estonian half of Eesti Elu, with the logician Puusaag and the poet Purje, is simply exquisite.
The English half, with the likes of Bollyn and constant commentary from Maxim de la Trine, leaves much to be desired.
The English half, with the likes of Bollyn and constant commentary from Maxim de la Trine, leaves much to be desired.
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0As long as cowards snipe from the sidelines the English commentaries will not improve. Purje and Puusaag write in their mother tongue. The snipers also comment in their tongue which is English. EE would be a lot more readable and interesting if the cowards wrote articles for publication under their own names in the language that they operate in daily about issues that they care about with the passion that the two EPs have.
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0Two cents worth of common sense for the commentator is offered here. The two Estonian writers mentioned write for the paper edition, and are posted on the website. Maxim de la what and others are annoying pests who comment on the website without positiviley contributing to the newspaper, which thru subscriptions and paid advertising is the source of funding for the website, which has neither subscription fees or paid advertising. So it is free, just like the air you breathe and expel with poisoned opinions.
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0There are many mentally limited luusers reeding ee online who have a difficult time with any opinion which is not striktly in line with their own tinking as too what is good and what is bad.
Too bad ... they don't have a clue as to what really is going on.
Too bad ... they don't have a clue as to what really is going on.
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0there should be a place for this sort of nonsense in a free society, somewhere or other where paranoiacs could go to feed their delusions. As an Estonian Canadian, however, I don't think "our" ethnic newspaper, whether print or net version, is a good place for it.
So, who is actually in charge of choosing english language articles for the online Eesti Elu? Please, step forward and explain your choices.
So, who is actually in charge of choosing english language articles for the online Eesti Elu? Please, step forward and explain your choices.
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0You are spot on!
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0It's a pity that Hain Rebas' name failed a mention in this quite juicy exclusive piece of an article. I am inclined to verify the details, but it shouldn't take long because the author is very much on the mark! Most of the accusations against Laar's govt and his personal friendship with Carl Bildt made it possible at a very high level to organize the ammunitions transfer at least to Sweden, if not further towards the Middle East. There were too many problems with the weapons containment purchased from Israel at the time, and according to reliable sources, these weapons are no longer in use in the EK. I hope that Piht will one day come out from the concrete jungle he's hiding and reveal the relevant causes for the sinking of the MS Estonia. Till then, bombs away....!
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0Criticism of Zionists is not a hatred of Jews. No one is suggesting hatred or anti-semitism. Not only do I love my Jewish friends, I have two grand-children who are as much Jewish as they are Estonian and I would give up my life for them in a nano-second. I also love truth and democracy. Free speech is a fundamental freedom and we should all be very suspect of any country, religion or organization that doesn't allow it. One concern with the Zionist movement is that it has swayed many people to believe that anyone expressing a criticism or using the term Zionist is an anti-semitic.
John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, American professors and authors, first wrote an excellent article outlining why the U.S. is so pro-Israel...even when at times it is not in its own national interest. I highly recommend a read of it. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/m... This article was later expanded into a book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" an extremely detailed and documented account of the enormous power of the Israel Lobby and how it jeopardizes not just U.S. but world peace. The authors also categorically state that Israel should be allowed to exist and should be protected if it were in imminent danger.
I commend EE for publishing this article. If you disagree with Bollyn's article, provide facts showing where he is wrong.
John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, American professors and authors, first wrote an excellent article outlining why the U.S. is so pro-Israel...even when at times it is not in its own national interest. I highly recommend a read of it. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/m... This article was later expanded into a book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" an extremely detailed and documented account of the enormous power of the Israel Lobby and how it jeopardizes not just U.S. but world peace. The authors also categorically state that Israel should be allowed to exist and should be protected if it were in imminent danger.
I commend EE for publishing this article. If you disagree with Bollyn's article, provide facts showing where he is wrong.
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0First of all, Mr. Bollyn does not present any facts. He simply restates the opinions of other people. He is in no way a reputed journalist and I am shocked that EE would reproduce this type of materials. It is an overly biased, opinionated and unbalanced document that has no place in this newspaper. For those who want to read this type of materials can do so, but on some other site.
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0Thanks for your opinion.
Mr. Bollyn is an investigative journalist who knows more than you or anyone else posting here on the tragedy of the Estonia sinking and the subsequent investigation.
If you have knowledge and facts that show Mr. Bollyn to be in error, please share these with EE readers, as this tragic event imapcted many Estonians and has not yet had a full, honest disclosure.
Unfortunately, you appear to be like some of the other commentators here who seem to prefer censorship to attempting to get closer to the truth.
Mr. Bollyn is an investigative journalist who knows more than you or anyone else posting here on the tragedy of the Estonia sinking and the subsequent investigation.
If you have knowledge and facts that show Mr. Bollyn to be in error, please share these with EE readers, as this tragic event imapcted many Estonians and has not yet had a full, honest disclosure.
Unfortunately, you appear to be like some of the other commentators here who seem to prefer censorship to attempting to get closer to the truth.
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0In addition to what you've already stated, I'd add that I object to this type of article because it attracts comments from weirdos, like Konze, who can't understand that it's logically impossible to prove a negative. For example, it can't be conclusively proved that Bollyn himself did not sink the Estonia.
I'd say, "think about it", but that would be pointless.
I'd say, "think about it", but that would be pointless.
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0Go ahead Daniel and be shocked. It's you who's disengaging from hedgine closer to the truth. The general blockade of information especially by the Swedes has left Estonia hamstrung knowing full well what the truth behind the sinking of the Estonia really was, but unable to harness Sweden's support for it. Sweden is doing everything possible not to tarnish its neutral stance, but once the truth becomes more than clear that Sweden is beyond it capacity to protect itself from accusations of fraudulence, it will bring about the first major dint of distrust towards that country. The entire scandalous Estonia affair is shocking, and you, Daniel, should do more to represent the truth of the matter rather than continue to bluff through the episode in an effort the protect Sweden's interests, as well as the interests of many Estonian officials who had a hand in this shocking tradgedy that took innocent life with it. Bolling is right in his deduction of the situation, and I have yet to see his detractors disproving his claims instead of just calling shots in the wind.
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0Maxim on tõesti FAKT!
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0Maxim,
The next time you choose to respond to one of my comments please read what I have written. Nowhere in my comment do I deny that the Swedes were not involved.
I am surprised that you the "big investigator" would believe the arguments (not facts) of such an author. To write such a piece as Bollyn has and to quote his own previously written documents is in no way investigative journalism. Mr. Bollyn has the burden of proving his so called facts not the readers. So, when someone has some real proof, I am ready to listen.
By the way, what does hedgine mean?
The next time you choose to respond to one of my comments please read what I have written. Nowhere in my comment do I deny that the Swedes were not involved.
I am surprised that you the "big investigator" would believe the arguments (not facts) of such an author. To write such a piece as Bollyn has and to quote his own previously written documents is in no way investigative journalism. Mr. Bollyn has the burden of proving his so called facts not the readers. So, when someone has some real proof, I am ready to listen.
By the way, what does hedgine mean?
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0EE readers are still waiting to hear from you as to what is the 'real' story about the Estonia and what happened to the crew who were rescued but shortly disappeared ?
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0Bollyn cites HIMSELF as authority for his ridiculous assertions.
Assuming that does not trouble you in the least, here is something else you will find interesting (zionists also sank the Titanic!!!)
http://www.thebestpageintheuni...
Assuming that does not trouble you in the least, here is something else you will find interesting (zionists also sank the Titanic!!!)
http://www.thebestpageintheuni...
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0fakt on fakt
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0...and he is some gullible!
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0We do know there is a wreck of the Estonia laying in international waters. Sweden has passed a law criminalizing any activities at the underwater site. The site is guarded. I wonder how many other ocean wrecks are guarded.
Investigation results in all of this is kept from the public because of Sweden's State Secrets Act.
Margus Kurm, Chairman of the Committee, Leading Public Prosecutor made a report in Tallinn on August 31, 2005 confirming that military equipment was transported by Swedish Defence Forces (Försvarsmakten)on the Estonia ferry on September 14 and 20 as reported by Johan Hirschfeldt in his public memorandum dated January 21, 2005. Why would any military equipment be carried on a passenger liner? http://www.just.ee/orb.aw/clas...
Why would Sweden spend over a million making models of the Estonia and doing laboratory simulations when it could have done a cheaper investigation at the scene of the wreck? Why all the secrecy?
Investigation results in all of this is kept from the public because of Sweden's State Secrets Act.
Margus Kurm, Chairman of the Committee, Leading Public Prosecutor made a report in Tallinn on August 31, 2005 confirming that military equipment was transported by Swedish Defence Forces (Försvarsmakten)on the Estonia ferry on September 14 and 20 as reported by Johan Hirschfeldt in his public memorandum dated January 21, 2005. Why would any military equipment be carried on a passenger liner? http://www.just.ee/orb.aw/clas...
Why would Sweden spend over a million making models of the Estonia and doing laboratory simulations when it could have done a cheaper investigation at the scene of the wreck? Why all the secrecy?
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0Whoa, wait a second, the Zionists control the media? I thought the Masons controlled to world??? So confusing!
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0they are both immersed and worship the occult of kabalah
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0Unfortunately the secrecy has to be part of the game, because there are national government's interests involved which would completely blow the lid on their trustworthiness should it be revealed how much these governments are to blame for the sinking of the Estonia. I think it's high time we called a spade a spade and fall back on the conclusive evidence available even as I write, that is beyond any doubt that Laar, Bildt, Sweden and Estonian governments were in this bigtime, because the national currency needed a backing that could only be given in weapons of mass destruction. That's why there is secrecy behind all this balleyhoo by the likes of the EFM and other organs. No one in any position of responsibility in Estonia has been able to refute Bolling's claims. I think that spells the equivalent of mountains of info that is unavailable because of agreements between govts to keep 30-year secrets.
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0I agree with you Maxim. It makes one wonder whether there is ever a justification for any country keeping any state secrets from its citizens.....and what criteria is used in making decisions of such covert importance that it treats its civilians like children.
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0I don't understand Daniel's position. On the one hand the Estonia catastrophe is on a scale equivalent to the worst disasters that occur in Russia. And I'm not thinking natural disasters, but the kind that caused the deaths of hundreds of people, yet were politically motivated. Sure, we can't bring pollonium into the equation here, but the fact remains that we are dealing with a criminal case. And there are people in our community who claim that arguing the opposite is "shocking". It would seem that we have community reps who are way out of their depth in analyzing situations that concern the national interests of the country. And that is very much to our detriment.
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0We are still waiting for your recap of this tragic event, but quelle surprise that you have no further comment, as you really had nothing to say on your previous posts.
Your agenda of censorship of 'uncomfortable' political information reminds me of how the soviets would have handled this.
Your agenda of censorship of 'uncomfortable' political information reminds me of how the soviets would have handled this.
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