Should Estonia flinch at Russian harassment?
Kommentaarid on kirjutatud EWR lugejate poolt. Nende sisu ei pruugi ühtida EWR toimetuse seisukohtadega.
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you left us hanging!18 Aug 2007 06:05
Do you really mean to say that The Simon Wiesenthal Centre’s director Efraim Zuroff believes that participants in the Erna Raid might be responsible for a derailing a train in Russia?
That's what you say and I can hardly wait till next week to see the evidence. In truth, I don't expect to see any and, therefore, I'll state in advance that you should select your words with greater care. Exaggeration undermines credibility.
Maxim.19 Aug 2007 13:03
Estonia should stick to keeping a low profile, and it it were possible, it should make Orthodoxy the national religion. This would go a long way to reducing heat between the two countries, and already many outsiders view the Cathedral of Alexander Nevsky as probably the finest symbol of the Estonian capital, Tallinn. I think there is a lot of goodwill in that, and we could get a lot more mileage from pursuing that line of thought.
to Maxim20 Aug 2007 18:52
Aleksander Nevksy (1220-1263) was a military hero with victories over Swedish and German armies. For this, he was sainted by the Orthodox Church.
A magnificent cathedral bearing his name was constructed in his name in Tallinn in 1900. It was a part of a broader campaign by Tsarist authorities to Russify Tsarist territories. Upon Estonian independence in 1918, the idea of razing the Cathedral was discussed. It was viewed by Estonians as an obnoxious symbol Russian chauvinism.

Maxim -- you are a grotesque freak. After twenty years away from our community, you still can't leave us in peace. You'd be pitied if you weren't so repulsive.
Maxim.20 Aug 2007 23:12
What you say may contain an element of truth, but it still doesn't bring about a change in the attitude of those looking to the Nevsky Cathedral as a symbol of Tallinn. Most postcards and brochures are adorned with this picture, and it seems that the Cathedral is also one of the most visited sites in the capital. Orthodoxy is also the 4th fastest growing religion in North America, so it is not surprising it has something going for it. And I know that the seedbed of peace and goodwill rest in the peoples' change of faith to one that would give more common ground and less political friction.
Maxim.20 Aug 2007 23:17
Contrary to your view, I have never found people to be repulsive regardless of their opinions, because the only thing that really counts here is sharing ideas. Character assassination is one of the worst forms of social encounter of the anonymous variety, yet it is practiced vociferously by some people here. This is truly and deeply a great shame to the good name of Estonians.
Maxim.20 Aug 2007 23:20
It was probably President Päts who stood in the way of the Cathedral being razed, since he himself was of staunch Orthodox faith. Anyway, it would be interesting for someone to investigate who took up the original argument, and who put an end to it.
to Maxim21 Aug 2007 10:49
You comments here are typical -- you distort simple truths to taunt and goad us. Your motivations are what make you a grotesque freak.
Maxim.21 Aug 2007 14:02
You've already stated that opinion-can't you go to your next "original" thought, or has the well dried up??
to the grotesque freak21 Aug 2007 15:24
To state that you are a grotesque freak is not an opinion or an "original" thought. It is a simple fact, universally acknowledged. You prove the truth of it every week as you come here with your odious slurs and taunts.
You wouldn't dare speak like you do here in Tallinn because you know that you would get a quick, richly deserved, knee to the groin.
to you left us hanging21 Aug 2007 15:57
Why are you surprised that Efraim Zuroff would comment on the Erna competition? He's quoted in Russia Today. If you follow Russia Today on the internet you'd gain a lot of insight as to how gullible Russian auhtorities think Western readers are. Their propaganda's basic premise is dependant on our ignorance.
hanging22 Aug 2007 06:11
Zuroff is no friend of Estonians and I'm not surprised at his calumny that Estonians are sympathetic to Nazis.

What surprises me is that he is alleged to have said that participants in the Erna retk might have crossed the Estonian border into Russia and caused a train derailment. That idea is simply too preposterous to be believed, although a Russian newspaper alleged as much.

That sounds like something that Maxim would say, not because he believes it, but simply to get our goat.
Maxim.22 Aug 2007 06:58
My only response to your comment is that I believe in the good and fair sense of EE's readership, which certainly is not made up of fools who believe your slander! Zuroff has declared intellectual war against Estonia, and I also believe in the goodness and common sense prevailing in the global Jewish community. As it stands, both Russia and Zuroff have recently left an abismal trail on historical skullduggery in their wake, and it is mud that won't come out easily in the wash.
Anonymous22 Aug 2007 07:38
I heard that it was Naši who came out with the original remark, and somehow Zuroff caught onto it and let his concern be known in the press. Can someone verify this please?
Slander, Maxim?22 Aug 2007 16:35
What slander?
Anonymous23 Aug 2007 06:38
What is the point of publishing a half-article? Is this really from the ECCC?
If it is, it is very poor politics.
to hanging23 Aug 2007 09:26
Zuroff did not comment on the train derailment but on the "fascist origins" of Erna rekt.
Anonymous23 Aug 2007 10:08
Laas seems to think so.
Re-read the last two sentences of his article above.
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